KHOI-FM, Ames, Iowa, Producer Susan Franzen presents excerpts from an interview of Nicholas Johnson by Station Manager, Ursula Ruedenberg, on KHOI’s noon program “Local Talk,” November 9, 2018, previous to his appearance November 16, 2018, at an Ames fundraiser for the station, discussing his then-latest book, Columns of Democracy.

More at NicholasJohnson.org/columns-of-democracy/